So, you got a time machine, buddy? Or did you just mess with the clock on your computer? I'm only in the next zip code, and it's 8:20 here. I'm not quite sure why it's already tomorrow for you, but happy 2008 anyway.
What I want to know, is how you knew to post a response that is dated before I even made the original post? Huh? Or maybe you TOO, have a time machine?
Hello Max. Happy New Year! Just a quick response to your comments on my blog. Yes, I teach in the inner-city. And yes, I would have to agree with you that there are probably some big differences between New York inner-city and Utah's inner-city. To be honest, I didn't know Utah had an inner-city.
About the college credits. Yes, to get the higher step on the salary scale, the Masters is the next step. Here in NYC, there is a cheaper shortcut that is available. We have something called "P" credits. We can take professional development classes and/or lectures and those can count as credits towards the salary scale. However, the "P" credits are only valid in the NYC area. So now I have enough credits for a Master's placement on the salary scale. Is there anything like "P" credits in Utah?
Happy New Year, Max! I found your blog in connection with another teacher's. I always enjoy reading the comments of other teachers. Makes me feel like I'm not totally abnormal. :)
Gibb : well, by the time you read this, it’ll be 1/1/8, so you won’t be able to prove the existence of my time machine……hahahahahahahaha . Jannx : Utah does in fact have an inner city. Because of the influence of the LDS Church, we have many immigrants to our area, from all over the world. Also, in the late 80’s and early 90’s we were a favorite place for inner city parent who had kids involved in gang activities to send their kids, supposedly to get them away from the gang influence. Instead, they got together and formed their own gangs here in SLC. So, contrary to popular belief, we do actually have a significant gang problem here. Thank you, Southern California! As far as “P” credits, we have them for relicensure, but to get them to count on our pay scale, we have to pay for them to become actual college credit (which is often offered) before they are counted f or lane change. . Jeff : Welcome and feel free to add your comments here anytime. For me too, it is great to hear from other teachers. We have a bizarre job that few other people understand. That, and have you ever told someone who isn’t a teacher about something incredibly funny that happened, just to have them respond with “what?”. My favorite story comes from my time at a Junior High. A 9th grader, we’ll call him “Pete” (since that really was his name), was walking down to lunch right in front of me and his Spanish teacher. He let out a huge belch, it echoed up and down the whole hall, and the Spanish teacher said “Pete!” His response was “That’s OK Ms. Burt, it was in Spanish!” Every Jr. High teacher I’ve told that to has laughed, everyone who never taught responded with “what?” Anyway, welcome. I see from your profile that you are from Indiana. I teach Math and Psychology at an “inner city” High School. What grade/subject(s) do you teach?
Sorry Jannx, I just read my post and just want to clarify one thing - despite the fact that we do have areas in SLC that qualify as inner city - I still stand by my comment that NYC inner city is a completely different proposition.
To Jannx, I totally agree with Max'x explanation about Utah's inner city. Yup, we've got some mighty tough kids, but I'm willing to bet that NYC has worse. (Although I bet you don't have to deal with cowboys as a gang, though, do you?) P credits, relicensure points, hoop jumping -- whatever. Yet another reason why I don't like W and his NCLB. My masters is done. I'm working on the next level: masters + 20. (And USU has lost some of my credits... grrrrrrrr.) Jeff, you ought to drop by my blog and read my post on "Why I Teach GT #3." Come to think of it, Max, you ought to drop over and read it too. You'd laugh.
Thanks for the informative explanation of Utah's inner city. I should also clarify the "P" credits. I am not sure, but I might have given the impression that "P" credits are free. The classes that count as "P" credit classes do cost, but much less than a college course.
The credits we get for re-licensure often are free and provided, if not required, by the district. But to get the lane change credits, for more pay, they have to be actual college credits. Sometimes we get them at a reasonable cost - Weber State University will often give us college credit for specific inservices for around $40 a credit hour. I just figure I'll get my Master's and then look at other courses to get endorsed to teach other subjects. I've thought about physics, drivers ed (that would be a lot of fun to teach) and maybe even history. We'll see.
Yeah, but Max, due to NCLB, you can't teach history unless you're "highly qualified," which means the equivalent of a major in that subject. This was a huge issue in our foreign language dept. a few years back. I got out of it because -- with my high school AP credits for Spanish -- I had enough hours to qualify for a major by district standards, even though it was only enough for a teaching minor by U of U standards. You can, however, get endorsements in stuff that's already in your field, which is why I have GT and ESL endorsements, since those attach to just about anything. I have no clue about driver's ed.
Ah, well, then I'll have to stick to the non-NCLB subjects. I can teach Psychology, even though I just have a minor in it. I'm already ESL endorsed, so that's off the list. Guess I'll just have to see what'll work when the time comes.
I laughed at that story too, so definitely a teacher thing.
I teach fifth grade. I have thirty kids. It's pretty nuts, but I have good stories too, and get a lot of Christmas presents, so it all pays off, I suppose. Visit my blog too, man! I have two--one for my personal life and one for my classroom. The kids do the one for class usually. This year's kids do a much more lackluster job than last year's gifted kids.
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So, you got a time machine, buddy? Or did you just mess with the clock on your computer?
I'm only in the next zip code, and it's 8:20 here. I'm not quite sure why it's already tomorrow for you, but happy 2008 anyway.
Shhhhhhhhhh! Nobody's supposed to know about my time maching - it's a secret. Where DID you think I was getting all those early 70's cars?
What I want to know, is how you knew to post a response that is dated before I even made the original post? Huh? Or maybe you TOO, have a time machine?
I too wondered if you had a time machine as it's still 12/31 in my zip code
Hello Max. Happy New Year! Just a quick response to your comments on my blog. Yes, I teach in the inner-city. And yes, I would have to agree with you that there are probably some big differences between New York inner-city and Utah's inner-city. To be honest, I didn't know Utah had an inner-city.
About the college credits. Yes, to get the higher step on the salary scale, the Masters is the next step. Here in NYC, there is a cheaper shortcut that is available. We have something called "P" credits. We can take professional development classes and/or lectures and those can count as credits towards the salary scale. However, the "P" credits are only valid in the NYC area. So now I have enough credits for a Master's placement on the salary scale. Is there anything like "P" credits in Utah?
Happy New Year, Max! I found your blog in connection with another teacher's. I always enjoy reading the comments of other teachers. Makes me feel like I'm not totally abnormal. :)
Gibb : well, by the time you read this, it’ll be 1/1/8, so you won’t be able to prove the existence of my time machine……hahahahahahahaha
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Jannx : Utah does in fact have an inner city. Because of the influence of the LDS Church, we have many immigrants to our area, from all over the world. Also, in the late 80’s and early 90’s we were a favorite place for inner city parent who had kids involved in gang activities to send their kids, supposedly to get them away from the gang influence. Instead, they got together and formed their own gangs here in SLC. So, contrary to popular belief, we do actually have a significant gang problem here. Thank you, Southern California!
As far as “P” credits, we have them for relicensure, but to get them to count on our pay scale, we have to pay for them to become actual college credit (which is often offered) before they are counted f or lane change.
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Jeff : Welcome and feel free to add your comments here anytime. For me too, it is great to hear from other teachers. We have a bizarre job that few other people understand. That, and have you ever told someone who isn’t a teacher about something incredibly funny that happened, just to have them respond with “what?”. My favorite story comes from my time at a Junior High. A 9th grader, we’ll call him “Pete” (since that really was his name), was walking down to lunch right in front of me and his Spanish teacher. He let out a huge belch, it echoed up and down the whole hall, and the Spanish teacher said “Pete!” His response was “That’s OK Ms. Burt, it was in Spanish!” Every Jr. High teacher I’ve told that to has laughed, everyone who never taught responded with “what?” Anyway, welcome. I see from your profile that you are from Indiana. I teach Math and Psychology at an “inner city” High School. What grade/subject(s) do you teach?
Sorry Jannx, I just read my post and just want to clarify one thing - despite the fact that we do have areas in SLC that qualify as inner city - I still stand by my comment that NYC inner city is a completely different proposition.
To Jannx, I totally agree with Max'x explanation about Utah's inner city. Yup, we've got some mighty tough kids, but I'm willing to bet that NYC has worse. (Although I bet you don't have to deal with cowboys as a gang, though, do you?)
P credits, relicensure points, hoop jumping -- whatever. Yet another reason why I don't like W and his NCLB.
My masters is done. I'm working on the next level: masters + 20. (And USU has lost some of my credits... grrrrrrrr.)
Jeff, you ought to drop by my blog and read my post on "Why I Teach GT #3." Come to think of it, Max, you ought to drop over and read it too. You'd laugh.
Thanks for the informative explanation of Utah's inner city. I should also clarify the "P" credits. I am not sure, but I might have given the impression that "P" credits are free. The classes that count as "P" credit classes do cost, but much less than a college course.
The credits we get for re-licensure often are free and provided, if not required, by the district. But to get the lane change credits, for more pay, they have to be actual college credits. Sometimes we get them at a reasonable cost - Weber State University will often give us college credit for specific inservices for around $40 a credit hour. I just figure I'll get my Master's and then look at other courses to get endorsed to teach other subjects. I've thought about physics, drivers ed (that would be a lot of fun to teach) and maybe even history. We'll see.
Yeah, but Max, due to NCLB, you can't teach history unless you're "highly qualified," which means the equivalent of a major in that subject. This was a huge issue in our foreign language dept. a few years back. I got out of it because -- with my high school AP credits for Spanish -- I had enough hours to qualify for a major by district standards, even though it was only enough for a teaching minor by U of U standards. You can, however, get endorsements in stuff that's already in your field, which is why I have GT and ESL endorsements, since those attach to just about anything.
I have no clue about driver's ed.
Ah, well, then I'll have to stick to the non-NCLB subjects. I can teach Psychology, even though I just have a minor in it. I'm already ESL endorsed, so that's off the list. Guess I'll just have to see what'll work when the time comes.
I laughed at that story too, so definitely a teacher thing.
I teach fifth grade. I have thirty kids. It's pretty nuts, but I have good stories too, and get a lot of Christmas presents, so it all pays off, I suppose. Visit my blog too, man! I have two--one for my personal life and one for my classroom. The kids do the one for class usually. This year's kids do a much more lackluster job than last year's gifted kids.
I'll definitely drop by, Paperback Writer.
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