Well, I got the 4 door back. I'm not going to tell you about it because I took Alex's advice and started a blog for old LTD fans. I call it "Underpopular Old Detroit Steel", because I decided to include all fans of the less popular cars of the 60's and 70's. So, for those of you who get tired of listening to my rambling and ranting about cars, you're not going to get it here anymore. Things of the vehicular nature will remain the domain of "Underpopular Old Detroit Steel" See ya there.